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I'm working with a company that has a seven user server running on a Mac
mini. They've decided to go "office-less" and are looking to have their
system hosted.

This is a new area to me so I'm looking for recommendations for hosting
services. We would like to use the current Mac mini and, for a variety of
reasons, the hosting service should be located in the continental US.

Checking in on the Mac mini colo reveals that they've been absorbed by
macstadium.com. Any comments on that service in particular?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Hosting Service for Small System

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Hi Doug,

We’ve used Mac Mini Colo & Mac Stadium for years.  Actually I liked the provisioning of Mac Stadium better than Mac Mini Colo so I was happy when they were absorbed.

We’ve been very happy with the service and support.  

The biggest thing I’d warn you is to use the Legacy Network Layer when going over the WAN (if possible).  We’ve also kept the machines at Yosemite as I’ve seen performance issues on the boxes when going beyond that OS version (I haven’t tried High Sierra yet).  The performance issues had to do with an OS X process taking up high CPU usage.  I could kill it but it would come back.

The other nice thing about Mac Stadium is that you can have them install windows on the mac if you’d prefer to run the server on windows (you need to give them a windows license).  Their price point is much cheaper than other hosting environments.

My two cents worth…

David Conley
By The Book, Inc.
Office: 815-234-7530
Direct Line: 815-406-5502
Fax: 815-234-7532
http://www.bythebook.com




> On Oct 13, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I'm working with a company that has a seven user server running on a Mac
> mini. They've decided to go "office-less" and are looking to have their
> system hosted.
>
> This is a new area to me so I'm looking for recommendations for hosting
> services. We would like to use the current Mac mini and, for a variety of
> reasons, the hosting service should be located in the continental US.
>
> Checking in on the Mac mini colo reveals that they've been absorbed by
> macstadium.com. Any comments on that service in particular?








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These guys are awesome. Been using them for about 4 years. If you use their Enterprise plan, your hardware is covered by their Perpetual hardware warranty.

https://www.macminivault.com

> On Oct 13, 2017, at 9:25 AM, Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I'm working with a company that has a seven user server running on a Mac
> mini. They've decided to go "office-less" and are looking to have their
> system hosted.
>
> This is a new area to me so I'm looking for recommendations for hosting
> services. We would like to use the current Mac mini and, for a variety of
> reasons, the hosting service should be located in the continental US.
>
> Checking in on the Mac mini colo reveals that they've been absorbed by
> macstadium.com. Any comments on that service in particular?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>


Later,
Guy

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(780) 974-8538

hardware, installation, training, support, programming, internet
specializing in 4th Dimension
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Re: Hosting Service for Small System

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Guy:

"These guys are awesome. Been using them for about 4 years. If you use
their Enterprise plan, your hardware is covered by their Perpetual hardware
warranty."

Their pricing is very comparable to Mac Stadium but I like the "extras". In
addition to that warranty, they also offer a loaner. There's extra value in
that.

Thank you!


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949-336-2902

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Guy Algot <[hidden email]> wrote:

> These guys are awesome. Been using them for about 4 years. If you use
> their Enterprise plan, your hardware is covered by their Perpetual hardware
> warranty.
>
> https://www.macminivault.com
>
> On Oct 13, 2017, at 9:25 AM, Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I'm working with a company that has a seven user server running on a Mac
> mini. They've decided to go "office-less" and are looking to have their
> system hosted.
>
> This is a new area to me so I'm looking for recommendations for hosting
> services. We would like to use the current Mac mini and, for a variety of
> reasons, the hosting service should be located in the continental US.
>
> Checking in on the Mac mini colo reveals that they've been absorbed by
> macstadium.com. Any comments on that service in particular?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Later,
>
> Guy
>
>
> --
>
> Guy Algot, Solutions Specialist
>
> Edmonton, Alberta
>
> (780) 974-8538
>
>
> hardware, installation, training, support, programming, internet
>
> specializing in 4th Dimension
>
> =-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
> "Microsoft is a cross between the Borg and the Ferengi. Unfortunately,
>
> they use Borg to do their marketing and Ferengi to do their programming."
>
>     -- Simon Slavin
>
>
>
>
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We’ve been very happy with Macstadium.  I have two minis hosted there, while I have a MacPro hosted at a Host.net <http://host.net/> facility in Florida.  (I have nothing but good things to say about host.net <http://host.net/> either, especially since they’ve stayed online through several major storms over the years, but I do worry about what’s happening to south Florida.)

Since Macstadium also has racks for the Pros I've been considering migrating there.  Our current installs are at their Atlanta facility, but after the hurricane fire drill we had recently in Florida (which also affected Georgia) we’re thinking that having a server that can be a “lifeboat” for the others in their Las Vegas facility (the former macminicolo) makes sense.  

I agree with others that the provisioning at Macminicolo was less … reassuring ... than Macstadium’s.  The owner of that firm seemed largely annoyed by requests for information.  I think he’s still onboard, but hopefully things in Las Vegas are better managed these days.

We recently had to do a complete wipe & reinstall of the OS on one of our Minis in Atlanta.  Macstadium took care of it … no extra charge.

Ron Rosell
__

Ron Rosell
President
StreamLMS


> On Oct 13, 2017, at 8:25 AM, Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I'm working with a company that has a seven user server running on a Mac
> mini. They've decided to go "office-less" and are looking to have their
> system hosted.
>
> This is a new area to me so I'm looking for recommendations for hosting
> services. We would like to use the current Mac mini and, for a variety of
> reasons, the hosting service should be located in the continental US.
>
> Checking in on the Mac mini colo reveals that they've been absorbed by
> macstadium.com. Any comments on that service in particular?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> Douglas von Roeder
> 949-336-2902 <(949)%20336-2902>
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Ronald:

Thank you for the info about Macstadium. I'd known of macminicolo.com but
didn't know about the troubles getting machines set up there.

Your point about hurricanes in FL and GA is noted and that's the attraction
to having a data center in the desert Southwest or in the heartland.

I like it that they did a clean install at no extra charge. That's
*excellent* customer service.

My client and I will be talking this week and I'll pass this information
along to them.


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949-336-2902

On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Ronald Rosell via 4D_Tech <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> We’ve been very happy with Macstadium.  I have two minis hosted there,
> while I have a MacPro hosted at a Host.net <http://host.net/> facility in
> Florida.  (I have nothing but good things to say about host.net <
> http://host.net/> either, especially since they’ve stayed online through
> several major storms over the years, but I do worry about what’s happening
> to south Florida.)
>
> Since Macstadium also has racks for the Pros I've been considering
> migrating there.  Our current installs are at their Atlanta facility, but
> after the hurricane fire drill we had recently in Florida (which also
> affected Georgia) we’re thinking that having a server that can be a
> “lifeboat” for the others in their Las Vegas facility (the former
> macminicolo) makes sense.
>
> I agree with others that the provisioning at Macminicolo was less …
> reassuring ... than Macstadium’s.  The owner of that firm seemed largely
> annoyed by requests for information.  I think he’s still onboard, but
> hopefully things in Las Vegas are better managed these days.
>
> We recently had to do a complete wipe & reinstall of the OS on one of our
> Minis in Atlanta.  Macstadium took care of it … no extra charge.
>
> Ron Rosell
> __
>
> Ron Rosell
> President
> StreamLMS
>
>
> > On Oct 13, 2017, at 8:25 AM, Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > I'm working with a company that has a seven user server running on a Mac
> > mini. They've decided to go "office-less" and are looking to have their
> > system hosted.
> >
> > This is a new area to me so I'm looking for recommendations for hosting
> > services. We would like to use the current Mac mini and, for a variety of
> > reasons, the hosting service should be located in the continental US.
> >
> > Checking in on the Mac mini colo reveals that they've been absorbed by
> > macstadium.com. Any comments on that service in particular?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > --
> > Douglas von Roeder
> > 949-336-2902 <(949)%20336-2902>
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Glad to help out Douglas.

FYI, Macminicolo is now the Las Vegas operation of Macstadium, so you may
find that they've raised their service standards there  ... it depends on
how "hands on" the Atlanta management became after the merger.  The guy I
dealt with in Las Vegas, who's still in the picture, made me feel like he
was mostly interested in getting my money, rather than my business, which
made me wonder how responsive he'd be if issues came up.

I had a very different experience with the Macstadium folks in Atlanta;
they were helpful from the outset.  They also appeared to have a larger
number of hands on deck, and all of their support people that I've dealt
with have been great.

(You'll note that at the bottom of Macminicolo's marketing web page they
mention they're "a Macstadium company";  still, they have a distinct
marketing presence.  But if you go to the Macstadium website, you'll see
that they offer three data centers, in Atlanta, Las Vegas and Dublin.  The
Las Vegas center is actually Macminicolo.)

Best regards,
Ron

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:09 AM, Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Ronald:
>
> Thank you for the info about Macstadium. I'd known of macminicolo.com but
> didn't know about the troubles getting machines set up there.
>
> Your point about hurricanes in FL and GA is noted and that's the attraction
> to having a data center in the desert Southwest or in the heartland.
>
> I like it that they did a clean install at no extra charge. That's
> *excellent* customer service.
>
> My client and I will be talking this week and I'll pass this information
> along to them.
>
>
> --
> Douglas von Roeder
> 949-336-2902
>
> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Ronald Rosell via 4D_Tech <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > We’ve been very happy with Macstadium.  I have two minis hosted there,
> > while I have a MacPro hosted at a Host.net <http://host.net/> facility
> in
> > Florida.  (I have nothing but good things to say about host.net <
> > http://host.net/> either, especially since they’ve stayed online through
> > several major storms over the years, but I do worry about what’s
> happening
> > to south Florida.)
> >
> > Since Macstadium also has racks for the Pros I've been considering
> > migrating there.  Our current installs are at their Atlanta facility, but
> > after the hurricane fire drill we had recently in Florida (which also
> > affected Georgia) we’re thinking that having a server that can be a
> > “lifeboat” for the others in their Las Vegas facility (the former
> > macminicolo) makes sense.
> >
> > I agree with others that the provisioning at Macminicolo was less …
> > reassuring ... than Macstadium’s.  The owner of that firm seemed largely
> > annoyed by requests for information.  I think he’s still onboard, but
> > hopefully things in Las Vegas are better managed these days.
> >
> > We recently had to do a complete wipe & reinstall of the OS on one of our
> > Minis in Atlanta.  Macstadium took care of it … no extra charge.
> >
> > Ron Rosell
> > __
> >
> > Ron Rosell
> > President
> > StreamLMS
> >
> >
> > > On Oct 13, 2017, at 8:25 AM, Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm working with a company that has a seven user server running on a
> Mac
> > > mini. They've decided to go "office-less" and are looking to have their
> > > system hosted.
> > >
> > > This is a new area to me so I'm looking for recommendations for hosting
> > > services. We would like to use the current Mac mini and, for a variety
> of
> > > reasons, the hosting service should be located in the continental US.
> > >
> > > Checking in on the Mac mini colo reveals that they've been absorbed by
> > > macstadium.com. Any comments on that service in particular?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Douglas von Roeder
> > > 949-336-2902 <(949)%20336-2902>
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